Chris Bunch - 2022 Forward


ThePearl

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Bunch’s Wasatch team is playing in an NIBC tournament this week, with the first game on ESPNU tomorrow and the other two streaming on ESPN+. The NIBC is a new elite national conference of eight top high school program. J.J. Starling’s very good LaLumiere team is also in the conferenc and playing in the tournament, with the first game on ESPNU tomorrow and the other two streaming.
 

cuseguy

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Seems to me if Benny stays and Swider leaves then we’ll bring in a starting forward. Might bring in a starting shooting guard also. Both depend on if the staff in April thinks Bunch and Taylor are ready to start as freshmen. My gut feeling is Taylor starts right away but not Bunch. Taylor seems a little more polished and well-rounded than Bunch right now, even if Bunch might have the higher ceiling.
Neither is ready to start right away. This incoming class will take a year or two to develop.
 
Neither is ready to start right away. This incoming class will take a year or two to develop.
I love the class they are bringing in, but I agree with you. They need to bring in portal or juco guys with athleticism that can play right away.

I also wish that we would play 9-10 guys like Baylor and Auburn are finding success with but I know it ain’t happening. Maybe in the future.
 

OrangeExtremist

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I love the class they are bringing in, but I agree with you. They need to bring in portal or juco guys with athleticism that can play right away.

I also wish that we would play 9-10 guys like Baylor and Auburn are finding success with but I know it ain’t happening. Maybe in the future.

We need guys ready now the way this team looks. Can’t be confident in landing those huge prospects like Lands when so many of the top end guys base their decision on how much money they will make. Syracuse has shown they are unwilling to play the game. We get JJ and Lands we would be talking a huge class. As it stands it’s solid. I think Taylor starts. I think they look for a grad transfer at forward to give the others time to get college ready. And besides Taylor, Bunch gets some PT off the bench. Lands would start. JJ would start. Syracuse is not a tough sell for basketball. Lands made it obvious he was looking for money. I’m suspecting that might’ve happened with JJ. Just my opinion but you can’t keep sitting back and watching schools openly recruit using NIL and decide we can’t. The NCAA is gonna do nothing about it. And everyone knows it. Those kids should be in our class.
 

ThePearl

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Neither is ready to start right away. This incoming class will take a year or two to develop.
You might be right. But I think Boeheim has seen Taylor as a guy to just plug right in as Buddy’s replacement. He really wanted Taylor, he picked him up at the airport himself. Justin is better in most aspects of the game than Buddy was coming into SU. He has a tighter handle than Bunch. Chris is doing more ball handling for Wasatch than he did at Peach Jam, but his dribble is high and the ball gets knocked away from him a lot. Justin is also a more physical player inside than Chris and a more consistent defender.
 
Will Buddy still leave if Syracuse has a down year and doesn’t make the tournament? Even if his shooting percentages are down for the year? Might not help his marketability going forward.
 

MikeMcAllister

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Will Buddy still leave if Syracuse has a down year and doesn’t make the tournament? Even if his shooting percentages are down for the year? Might not help his marketability going forward.
Good question. We all thought Garrett Williams would leave for the NFL after this past season, but a down year marred by injuries and he's back.
 
Will Buddy still leave if Syracuse has a down year and doesn’t make the tournament? Even if his shooting percentages are down for the year? Might not help his marketability going forward.
If the season were to end today, Buddy would not be drafted. The NBA doesn't want mediocre 6'6" shooters with subpar athleticism.
 

ThePearl

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Will Buddy still leave if Syracuse has a down year and doesn’t make the tournament? Even if his shooting percentages are down for the year? Might not help his marketability going forward.
I don't see how coming back for a fifth year playing against college kids helps Buddy's game or in the draft. There's nothing scouts will see next year that they haven't already seen. But although he said before the season this was his last, I think there is a small possibility if this season is a disaster that he comes back for the team and his father, not for himself.

I thought before the season that Swider was likely to be gone after this year, for the same reason--at some point you have to start playing against grown men instead of college students year after year, even if it's G League or overseas. But all Swider's shown so far is that he's not the knockdown shooter he's supposed to be. For both Buddy and Cole, any chance of them making the NBA won't be because of their iso skills or anything else, it will be because they don't often miss open threes. Scouts have seen enough from Buddy in the past to know he can knock down open shots at a high rate, but not Cole. There's plenty of far more athletic guys than him who shoot just as well or better. It's possible he realizes the NBA is not in his future and decides to come back rather than play overseas.
 

ThePearl

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If the season were to end today, Buddy would not be drafted. The NBA doesn't want mediocre 6'6" shooters with subpar athleticism.
Nope, he's nowhere near being drafted. But in the NBA he wouldn't be the focus of the defense and might get better shots than he does this year. He's shown that he can be very good bullying a defender into the paint for a midrange jumper, but I doubt he can do that in the NBA or would get drafted for that. They would want him to shoot threes and not hurt the team on defense when he's out there but that will be tough. He will likely have to go to the G League and show enough to get a call up like Brissett and Hughes have.
 

OrangeExtremist

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Nope, he's nowhere near being drafted. But in the NBA he wouldn't be the focus of the defense and might get better shots than he does this year. He's shown that he can be very good bullying a defender into the paint for a midrange jumper, but I doubt he can do that in the NBA or would get drafted for that. They would want him to shoot threes and not hurt the team on defense when he's out there but that will be tough. He will likely have to go to the G League and show enough to get a call up like Brissett and Hughes have.

I actually think that Buddy will have a long professional career. Just not in the NBA. The rules are different in Europe and they take away some thing players that are more athletically gifted can do. It kinda levels the playing field. Not really a knock on him imo. European money is solid these days.
 
Nope, he's nowhere near being drafted. But in the NBA he wouldn't be the focus of the defense and might get better shots than he does this year. He's shown that he can be very good bullying a defender into the paint for a midrange jumper, but I doubt he can do that in the NBA or would get drafted for that. They would want him to shoot threes and not hurt the team on defense when he's out there but that will be tough. He will likely have to go to the G League and show enough to get a call up like Brissett and Hughes have.
Every college teams best defender is a worse defender than anyone that would guard buddy. Brissett and Hughes are both 5 times the athlete buddy is, and Hughes is a better shooter (shooting 50% on the year) and averages a whopping 6 minutes a game. I don't see a situation in which Buddy ever sniffs an NBA roster.
 
We need guys ready now the way this team looks. Can’t be confident in landing those huge prospects like Lands when so many of the top end guys base their decision on how much money they will make. Syracuse has shown they are unwilling to play the game. We get JJ and Lands we would be talking a huge class. As it stands it’s solid. I think Taylor starts. I think they look for a grad transfer at forward to give the others time to get college ready. And besides Taylor, Bunch gets some PT off the bench. Lands would start. JJ would start. Syracuse is not a tough sell for basketball. Lands made it obvious he was looking for money. I’m suspecting that might’ve happened with JJ. Just my opinion but you can’t keep sitting back and watching schools openly recruit using NIL and decide we can’t. The NCAA is gonna do nothing about it. And everyone knows it. Those kids should be in our class.
Whole recruiting game has changed, NIL has made it even easier for teams to pay players and the SEC teams like LSU, Auburn, and Arkansas are dominating recruiting.

Lands and Westry basically let it be known they wanted to get paid, but those are types we used to get and have not been landing lately and are missing that athleticism badly.

We need to add athletes and I hope we add atleast a forward and guard through the portal or juco.
 

OrangeExtremist

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Whole recruiting game has changed, NIL has made it even easier for teams to pay players and the SEC teams like LSU, Auburn, and Arkansas are dominating recruiting.

Lands and Westry basically let it be known they wanted to get paid, but those are types we used to get and have not been landing lately and are missing that athleticism badly.

We need to add athletes and I hope we add atleast a forward and guard through the portal or juco.

I don’t believe we will land our big targets when everyone else’s participates openly in NIL recruiting and we do not. You’re not gonna go to Cuse for nothing when 3 schools are offering you $100k. NIL is not about how much you are worth in college. That may have been the intent but it’s not realistic. It’s about boosters paying kids to play for their school. It’s not like it’s a few schools openly doing it. It’s literally everyone but us I feel like.
 
I understand players being able to profit off their NIL, but it’s still illegal for boosters to outright pay kids to attend their alma mater, right? Even with NIL, this would still be considered an improper inducement or an illegal “pay for play”. The NIL agreement is supposed to be commensurate with fair market value. Now I’m sure that some schools or boosters are flirting with skirting the rules, but we aren’t suggesting that Syracuse do that and run the risk of facing sanctions while the involved players are declared ineligible, are we? If other schools are doing it, let them face the eventual crackdown. Am I being naive? Or is the NCAA totally turning a blind eye? I know their power seems to be getting reduced by the powerful conferences, but this will certainly ruin college basketball if the inmates are allowed to run the asylum.
 

MikeMcAllister

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I understand players being able to profit off their NIL, but it’s still illegal for boosters to outright pay kids to attend their alma mater, right? Even with NIL, this would still be considered an improper inducement or an illegal “pay for play”. The NIL agreement is supposed to be commensurate with fair market value. Now I’m sure that some schools or boosters are flirting with skirting the rules, but we aren’t suggesting that Syracuse do that and run the risk of facing sanctions while the involved players are declared ineligible, are we? If other schools are doing it, let them face the eventual crackdown. Am I being naive? Or is the NCAA totally turning a blind eye? I know their power seems to be getting reduced by the powerful conferences, but this will certainly ruin college basketball if the inmates are allowed to run the asylum.
Yes it is illegal, but that's what is happening in a lot of places. No Syracuse is not one of those places.
 
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